B-24 kod Ključa

Fenix78 · Upisano: Pon Pro 16, 2019 6:46 pm Naslov poruke: B-24 kod Ključa

18.12.1944. USAAF je bombardirao Oświęcim (Auschwitz).
Imam informacije da se jedan B-24 od 459 BG srušio u blizini Ključa.
Od 10 članova posade spasilo ih se najmanje 8. Oštećeni su motori n1 i nr 4 (vjerojatno ne rade). Avion se srušio, ali nije izgorio.

Nažalost, ne mogu pronaći ništa o ovom avionu. Davno sam dobio samo ovih nekoliko informacija.
Znam da je tog dana izgubljeno 459 BG:
B-24 br. 42-51714 - Poljska
B-24 br. 42-78160 - Sáta pokraj Ózd - Mađarska
B-24 br. 44-41272 - Sanski Most - Bosna
B-24 br. 42-95265 - Jadransko more pored Italije
B-24 br. nepoznato - Brač (Hrvatska)

Avion koji tražim stroj je izvan ovog popisa.

Zna li netko nešto i pomogne ??
Pozdrav iz Poljske
Janusz

Ispričavam se na svom jeziku, ali ne znam hrvatski.
Koristim prevoditelja

dalibor · Upisano: Pon Pro 16, 2019 7:00 pm Naslov poruke:

I'll ask a guy who is expert in B-24. stay tuned

Fenix78 · Upisano: Pon Pro 16, 2019 7:24 pm Naslov poruke:

Thanx. I will be waiting for any respond.

Janusz

raus · Upisano: Pon Pro 16, 2019 7:55 pm Naslov poruke:

oi!

18.12.1944.
B-24J-155-CO
44-40272
759th BS/459th BG
"Eightball"

Crew of 10, 8 rescued at least Kljuc, BiH Mission to Oswiecim, No.1 and 4 dmg. aircraft crashed but not burned

Imam ti cijeli MACR (moj mail: raus_punk@yahoo.com ).

Imaš fotku aviona na "B24bestweb"
http://www.b24bestweb.com/eightball.htm

pozdrav
rAus

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Fenix78 · Upisano: Pon Pro 16, 2019 7:58 pm Naslov poruke:

Jeste li sigurni da je ovo avion ?? Imam informacije da se srušio na Sanski Most.

Janusz

dalibor · Upisano: Uto Pro 17, 2019 12:03 am Naslov poruke:

Robert Livingstone kaže:

18 December 44 was not a good day for the B-24 and its crews, the date appearing often across all war theatres in my database.

44-41272 may be an incorrect serial; my data suggests (not proves) that it remained in the US, probably as a trainer. Alternatively I just may not have ever seen anything about this serial.

42-95265 was lost on 17 July 44.

The unknown Croatia loss is most likely one of the number of diversions/crashes on or near Vis.

From what I included below, I believe that 42-52264 of the 454th BG rather than the 459BG is the most likely candidate for your Polish friend’s crash. No photo unfortunately.

42-51714 J CALIFORNIA ROCKET 459BG 757BS

c/n3245 On 12 November 1944 15AF list as assigned 459BG on 30/08/44; 18/12/44 CR in Ochotnica Gorna Poland during

raid on a chemical plant at Auswitch; MACR#10688 (on file)[photo: HD] full story of loss also on HD

42-52264 H WOLFF'S GANG (A&HCoM) 454BG 737BS #34

c/n981 18/12/44 lost Yugoslavia on Oswiecim mission; Lt Doering; (Ancient & Honorable Artillery Company of

Massachusets); MACR#10689; known on mission 164 09/12/44, 166 12/12/44, 167 15/12/44, 168 16/12/44, 169

17/12/44 and 170 18/12/44; IARC on HD

42-78160 G CHERRY II 459BG 758BS -

c/n116 18/12/44 lost Poland; MACR#10699

44-40272 J EIGHTBALL 459BG 759BS #9/* OHAM

c/n4208 25/04/44 DUSA; PROJECT NO.90523-R; 18/12/44 CR; MACR#10698 – incorrectly listed as 44-4272 - (on HD)

[photo: HD]

44-49259 L - 454BG 736BS #* OHAM

c/n4114 18/12/44 lost Hungary; MACR#10918 Mickey ship; known mission 170 18/12/44; IARC on HD

Fenix78 · Upisano: Uto Pro 17, 2019 11:43 am Naslov poruke:

Friends:

18.12.1944 during mision Over Oświęcim in my knowledge was loses this plane:

454 BG (736 BSq) - B-24 nr. 44-49259 - Loses in Baja next to Gara - Hungary. Pilot Fryer Milton Jr. MACR 10918
454 BG (737 BSq) - B-24 nr. 42-52264 - Loses in Lušci Palanka - Bosnia. Pilot Wolf John K. MACR 10686
454 BG (736 BSq) - B-24 nr. 42-95244 - Not loses. Emergency landing on Vis. Pilot Henry A. Lange. MACR not created
459 BG (757 BSq) - B-24 nr. 44-41161 - Lot loses. Emergency landing on Vis. Pilot A.E.Purman
459 BG (757 BSq) - B-24 nr. 42-51714. Loses in Poland. Pilot William J. Beimbrink. MACR 10688
459 BG (758 BSq) - B-24 nr. 42-78160. Loses in Sáta next to Ózd - Hungary. Pilot Robert G. De Groat. MACR 10699
459 BG (759 BSq) - B-24 nr. 44-4272 or 41272 or 40272. Loses in Ključ next to Sanski Most - Bosnia. Pilot Frederick H. Coe. MACR 10698
459 BG (759 BSq) - B-24 nr. 42-95265. Loses in Adriatic Sea 16 kilometers from Peschici. Pilot Andrew J. Schmidt. MACR 10685
459 BG (757 BSq) - Number of plane unknown. Loses in Brač - Croatia. Pilot Henry F. Curry. MACR not created or unknown.

Still are missing four planes from 459 BG loses in this day.
MACR are available here: https://catalog.archives.gov/id/305256

Janusz